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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.02.02 20:28:00 -
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I'd like to publicly announce EVE Trade Master. Its a web based application I've been developing during the past months, build to support players in their trading activities, such as market analysis, assets and order tracking. Shortly after I started playing EVE I became interested exploring the economic aspects of this game and started developing my own set of tools that later turned into what became EVE Trade Master.
Application:
http://evetrademaster.appspot.com/
Online Help:
http://sites.google.com/site/evetrademasterhelp/
Screenshots:
http://sites.google.com/site/evetrademasterhelp/screenshots
Please feel free to sign up if interested. Due to the way the EVE API is designed, a full API key is required to allow access to trading relevant data of your account.
Feedback or questions? Let me know.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.02.03 20:06:00 -
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Getting it to run on "your webserver" would be rather hard because the application is specifically designed for Google App Engine. If I'd distribute it, everyone would have to sign up for GAE and deploy the code base own its own, leaving plenty of EVE trade master instance in the wild that I won't be able to patch or update. Its not making a lot of sense, although I understand if people feel uncomfortable giving away their full key.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.02.17 22:46:00 -
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Thanks for all the positive feedback! I'm working on some new cool features that I hope to push out soon. Progress is slow but steady..
As for corp orders thats something I haven't implemented yet, but its definitely on the list. I'd like to do things a bit different with corp data and allow you to share data with other corp members from within ETM. It doesn't make a lot of sense for each trader in your corp to signup and pull the same corp data individually so I'd like to implement some kind of data sharing feature. You'd just need one privileged api key for auto-updating the data and then give access to a list of google accounts owned by your corp mates. How does that sound to you? Are there any other particular features you'd like to see implemented?
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.02.23 20:26:00 -
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@Gunner77
I'm currently working on adding another profit calculation variant for the order screen similiar to what you described. Thanks for your input.
@Noobious
Could you elaborate on why this would be useful? I guess its technically not very difficult, but I don't understand why you would want to use a API proxy with ETM?
@Mr Profitt
Did you pull in your API data by selecting one of your characters using the pulldown menu on top of the screen or by enabling the auto-update feature?
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.02.28 16:22:00 -
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** Version 0.17: deployed **
I've added two more profitability calculation options for tracking your market orders.
First is based on your own transactions as briefly discussed. If you buy/sell items at the same time this should give you good results.
Second is based on eve-central prices. You can now fetch prices for all items that you have orders up and query eve-central for corresponding prices in your trade hub.
Hope you like it.
@Noobious
AFAIK the "1 request per hour" limit is based on API key *and* IP address. I.e. you should be safe as long as other tools you use don't share the same IP with ETM.
@Bytestorm
I've done some changes to the character purge feature. Could you give it a try again?
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.03.07 17:19:00 -
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Currently I'm rewriting much of the code for creating exports to google docs. The google python API for that turned out to be a real pain to use and is giving me a hard time. But I definitely want to make the data export feature more powerful and also like to support market orders and assets. I hope I can finish this next week. It will also depend on how busy I'll be playing FF13 :)
@Valator
The statistics will be generated every night. Please let me know if that would not be the case with for you. As for the shown entries after an update you're right with your observation. I should probably merge the new entries with the previous list shown but its not implemented yet. Most people prefer to use the auto-update feature so its not top priority.
@small chimp
You can analyse market logs from different regions and lookup prices in your tradehub that might be in a different region. Buts theres no support for region side by side comparision as in EVE market scanner. This tool seems to work well enough, but its really not my kind of trading style so I rather like to focus on other things in ETM.
@Tehg Rhind
Are you aware of the data export feature? Would that be sufficient? There are no database files in a classical sense. So the only possible way to allow you to access your data would be some kind of file based export.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.03.08 18:39:00 -
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Thanks for your feedback, Kelniun!
I'm not sure if there's bug with the "filled" orders display. I'd like to rework this part anyway and integrated it with the second "no transactions" table. Also I'd like to add more order states so the list would show:
* Filled/Expired
* No transactions since 48hrs
* No transactions since 24hrs
* Low on stock (>90% sold)
Any further ideas what states to add?
As for uploading your current orders dump that is something I never really thought about. I really need to think about this but I'm not too comfortable using the dump for import along with the API data for a couple of reasons. Maybe it would be useful to use the order dump with the analysis feature as describe above by adding an upload field right next to the "noteworthy" table. It would give you the opportunity to adhoc analyze orders without overloading the data history graph with too much insignificant data as would be if the dump is stored along with api data.
Showing the profit rate of your current orders would be nice. I already tried to integrate this in the line chart. I did not get the results I expected from that. However, a bar chart visualization as you described sound promising. I'll give it a try!
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.03.21 14:39:00 -
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** Update 0.18 **
Replaced the google spreadsheet export with a plain csv export option, now supporting assets, orders, transactions and journal data.
Improved order states noteworthy section as described above.
Added new chart "profit by type" as discussed.
Enjoy.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.03.22 19:36:00 -
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It shouldn't be a big issue, I'll give it a try. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.03.28 14:37:00 -
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** 0.19 is out **
I've added some support for containers in the assets section. Items will now be visible on station level and can optionally be filtered. I've been thinking about allowing to drill-down into containers from the station level, but decided to just collapse all items into the station level so you don't have to find the right container to drill-down. Unfortunately container names are not retrievable through the API so it would be guess work to pick the right container to view into.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.04.01 12:14:00 -
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The bar chart shows the total profit over the complete period that is shown in the history graph. Think of it as a summary of the history data grouped by item type. As the shown period isn't that large anyways I didn't bother adding some date based filtering. Is that something you'd like to see added?
As for the assets update issue, thats something that is really hard to solve because both of your suggested solutions won't work. Theres a 1MB hard limit of data that I'm able to retrieve through http from external servers in one request. I do have some ideas how to get around this but it needs some work. Until then, there are other great assets management tools around!
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.04.17 13:12:00 -
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I've finally managed to work around some of the previous limitations and you should now be able to import data up to 10MB (zipped) through the API, which should be fairly enough even for large asset lists.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.05.05 20:52:00 -
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Can you tell me what kind of bomb exactly? Thanks.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.05.07 18:23:00 -
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*** 0.22 is out with new market competition tool ***
Big news today. I've release a new tool that will help you to analyse how orders from other people are performing in your markets. Read more about it here. Please send feedback and let me know how this works for you.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.05.10 22:03:00 -
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@Maxx Overseer
Implement support for corp data is on top of my list and one of the next thinks to start with.
@PlowMe
You can use the order history analysis feature, it should work fine for the described strategy. Read how it works here. Just make sure to select "Profits by Transactions".
@Nin Kasi
Thanks for reporting this. The character update from the settings page didn't work for you scenario (although the char name isn't used here..). I've fixed it, please give it a try.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.05.17 16:41:00 -
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@oiusodoff
Are you sure you uploaded market logs and not your market orders list? The file name must match a certain pattern: region-item-yyyy.mm.dd timestamp.txt
If you could send me the username that you use with ETM I would be able to consult the log files for further details of your case.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.06.04 19:14:00 -
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All of you who had problems loading market orders please give the current version a try and let me know.
*** Update 0.23 ***
I've added basic support for corp data. You can now pull in corp data using the API credentials of the selected character. I strongly recommend to use either char or corp data for a single character cause theres no way to tell char from corp data once loaded. Use the 'purge data' feature from the setting if you want to start over. Further improvements will be considered based on feedback and general interest working with corp data in ETM.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.06.17 16:16:00 -
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Several minor improvements and a word from the developer - 17 Jun 2010
I just finished with some minor improvements, such as the new 'Best deals only' filter options for sell order on the market data page. Also, while working with the market competion page I've realised that the item type selection would become quite large and I gets harder to find the items I like to watch. Therefor I've added the number of uploaded logs for each item type within the last 7 days after the type name.
As ETM is now available since several months, I'd like to take the time to thank everyone who gave it a try and spoke out their feedback in the forums. The number of people who signed up and trusted me their full api key is really impressive. Currently the site is getting about 3-6 new members per day which is much more than I expected. I'll continue to work on this project to make sure ETM earns your trust and will stay on top as one of the best platforms for traders in EVE.
When I started working on ETM I only had vague plans how to monetize it at some time in the future. My initial plan was to create some kind of subscription based fee or even quota based system that would allow you to pay based on how much you use it. Although this would be possible, I decided not to implement such technical restrictions. However, in order to support ETM, I'd like to ask you for your feedback or a donation (see homepage for details) that would help me to keep this service alive and kicking. Much appreciated and happy trading!
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.06.18 17:03:00 -
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@Delagos
Please update your list of characters from the settings page. That should show you the current corp of your char.
I've also blacklisted some sites related to isk selling or macro mining from my google ads integration and will continue to do so. The ad listings integration is something I want to give a try to cover the (albeit low) hosting costs. In case stuff listed there will be totally irrelevant or just annoy people it will be removed again..
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.06.21 21:06:00 -
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The backend system will proxy requests on eve metric prices for the client. But theres no pre-fetching. The number of items is just to big for that. Also you'll get more recent prices if you pull them on demand. Theres some caching that will kick in once prices have been retrieved, but its really simple.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.07.04 10:00:00 -
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Your correct, its only available for buy orders. I might be adding support for sell orders as well. Its not as useful as for buy orders but still might be worth it. I'll let you know when its there..
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.07.16 21:09:00 -
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You can check your profits by item type in the market orders section. Its useful for comparing orders as it only shows values for the last couple of days (same as show in the line graph). Its also based on revenue, not quantities.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.07.31 20:42:00 -
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Please be aware that the orders page was really just designed to track individual orders profit wise. I'm planning to add a new accounting module that will allow you to generate financial statements and shows you a nice weekly report how you are doing. But there are several technical restrictions I have to solve first. Also its a pretty comprehensive endeavour.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.08.26 22:30:00 -
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Hey JonnSmith
Thanks for your feedback and donation. Let me respond to some of your points.
1) I don't own an iPhone. Do you know any emulator I could use instead for page optimization? So far Safari worked fine on windows with ETM, but I guess it could use some tweaking for mobiles.
2) Theres a fixed limit on how often you are allowed to poll the EVE API for current data. Theres no way around it for any 3rd party app.
As for disabling the auto-update feature for certain characters please try to uncheck all characters from the list using ctrl key (or apple equivalent) and save. That should work just fine.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Ivy Brookdale
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Posted - 2010.10.02 13:54:00 -
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Login authentication is secured. The pages could be served through secure connection. But since the EVE API is only plain http, your API data will be routed unencrypted through the net anyways.
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